Comments on: Information vs Behaviour

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Tue, 08 Sep 2009 06:58:37 +0000

[...] and data as resources in a uniform and controlled way. Each piece of data worth talking about is a first class citizen on the web; that is, each piece of data is a resource, and has a [...]

By: Arnon Rotem-Gal-Oz

Arnon Rotem-Gal-Oz — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:08:50 +0000

Nice distinction here DJ
Though I’d like to think that the BI challenges of SOA can be solved (see for example an article I wrote for InfoQ on that http://www.infoq.com/articles/BI-and-SOA )

Arnon

By: piers's status on Tuesday, 30-Jun-09 06:20:16 UTC - Identi.ca

piers's status on Tuesday, 30-Jun-09 06:20:16 UTC - Identi.ca — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 06:20:50 +0000

[...] via @qmacro http://www.pipetree.com/qmacro/blog/2009/06/information-vs-behaviour/ – you have been saying it for a long time [...]

By: dj

dj — Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:21:53 +0000

Tomas, thanks for the comment. Interesting reading on “Information is a task”. I’m not sure I entirely agree with what is said in that article; I think there’s some conflation of levels (task, information, technology), which is part of the confusion, IMHO.

Information orientation doesn’t just solve “finding out”. To put it another way, there’s more to manipulating resources than GET

Regards
DJ

By: Tomas

Tomas — Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:09:38 +0000

Excellent points here. I’m battling this myself with an IA for a MOSS system, internally with myself and with peers.

Which comes first, The information or the architecture? I have been focusing on designing from the Task up. People use a system to achieve something, not find out something. A task oriented architecture, if you will.

Gerry McGovern says it quite well here – http://giraffeforum.com/wordpress/2009/06/14/information-is-a-task/

I’ll be subscribing. Keep posting.

Regards,
Tomas